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Strength gems vers armor pen gems on blood dk
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Post by
allstate
To me it seems like at a certain point armor pen gems will put out more dps for you than strength gems. I raid buff to about 7800 ap at what point if anyone knows would you want to make that conversion. Ive heard 6300 ap and other things so wanted to see what others think. thanks
Post by
dervasavred
6300 AP was a number that was supposedly a raid threshold for 3.1 (Ulduar) level gear to regem ArP.
This number was never mathematically confirmed or validated: only theorized since the formula for ArP was not revealed by Blizzard until much later in 3.1's life.
Of course, that was BEFORE the ArP nerf of 12.5%. Nowadays, ArP is suspected (
note: this is NOT proven yet; only a hypothesis
) to pass Strength at very, very high-end ICC loot (Arthas and Heroic kills, supposedly), but it's not supposed to be a huge difference as far as what can be determined so far. On the Unholy thread, they were quoting a ~40 DPS gain from a straight regem on single-target fights.
The problem was AoE fights: ArP does next to nil for AoE aside from Blood's HS.
For the time being, gem Str.
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213594
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Post by
frmorrison
Gem strength. Only in 277 gear is it a dps increase to gem ArP for Blood (which no one has yet).
Post by
neomasterc
From my personal stat weighings, it seems that arpen is already surpassing str. (ilvl 258/264) using GoD, but not yet with GoDD. However, str will win in any aoe situation.
AttackPower | 1 (0.65 DPS/per AP)
Strength | 2.77
Agility | 1.63
CritRating | 2.18
HasteRating | 1.29
ArmorPenetrationRating | 2.98
ExpertiseRating | 1.6
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8% | 2.95
WeaponDPS | 10.46
WeaponSpeed | 400
2T9 | 144.44
4T9 | 273.02
2T10 | 326.98
4T10 | 400
| Template | Blood 51-00-20-01-GoD
| Priority | Blood
| Presence | Blood
| Sigil | Virulence
| RuneEnchant | FallenCrusader / None
| RuneEnchant | FallenCrusader
| Pet Calculation | True
AttackPower | 1 (0.64 DPS/per AP)
Strength | 2.88
Agility | 1.47
CritRating | 2.09
HasteRating | 1.97
ArmorPenetrationRating | 2.75
ExpertiseRating | 3.5
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8% | 4.91
WeaponDPS | 9.69
WeaponSpeed | 484.38
2T9 | 149.21
4T9 | 234.92
2T10 | 261.9
4T10 | 384.13
| Template | Blood 51-00-20
| Rotation | Blood
| Presence | Blood
| Sigil | Virulence
| RuneEnchant | FallenCrusader / None
| RuneEnchant | FallenCrusader
| Pet Calculation | True
Post by
frmorrison
Maybe there is something to using some ArP gems.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&cn=Sardukar
this guy has the top Blood dps parse and is using a few ArP gems. I am not sure why it is only a few because he has a PvP trinket on atm. Perhaps he is using the Runestone and when it procs he gets close to the Armor cap (1261 for a Blood)?
Post by
neomasterc
his arpen isnt even spectacular. I can get 1% less arpen w/o gemming for arpen using a crappy set of gear.
i think arpen > str at around 50%.
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