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Adamsm
If you are using Xenophobia loosely, than yes, it can be grouped with homophobia, but under normal circumstances, within a normal discussion, it's implied that Xenophobia is limited to foreigners or strangers.
The proper term for being afraid of homosexuals is Homophobia, not Xenophobia. You should think of using Xenophobia in circumstants where there is no phobia determined already.
All discrimination of minorities is pretty much Xenophobia.
Right... so what is it then, when the homosexual is the same race you? Would you still consider that xenophobia even if the person is the same as you?
Same as me ? No, because there's nothing to be feared of.
..... you do see the irony then right?
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Adamsm
6-Yes, which is why I defined it as someone who has the desire to act upon that and that desire is larger than that towards the other sex.I don't see how that is bigot.It's the way you said it, as if it's all about sex and not about their emotions, as if they can't love in your eye, or at least it's not love unless it's between a man and a woman instead of a same sex pairing.
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Adamsm
NO, I didn't mean that.I even said "is it simply an act of love or a physical desire" .
Heh, make sure your clear about something like that next time then.
Your original words were: And maybe my definition of homo is different, but I mean someone who is physically attracted to the same sex and feels like they want to sex them but not the opposite sex. And read the wrong way, it does look like your just saying it's all physical, no emotional connection.
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Adamsm
Yes if I'm afraid of him it's xenophobia......how? It's a 'whatever ethnicity' you are, looks like you, talks like you, is not a stranger or a foreigner, the only thing 'wrong' is that he/she are homosexual, so it can't be xenophobia, you'd be homophobic in that example.
Yes, of course they are human and can love.What confuses me though is that any man can love another man, but not every man feels like he wants to have sex with other men, so at what point does someone become gay?For example I love my father, to a certain degree some of my peers, however I don't feel the urge to #$%^ them , and I still love girls but in this case accompanied by the desire to have sex with them.Whenever your genes kick in; seriously it's fine to love another man, but you've actually answered your second question; it's the desire to have a physical relation with them, same your desire to have a physical relation with a woman.
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Adamsm
But yet I'm afraid of him because he's a homo and I'm not.
Like I said homophobia is only one component of Xenophobia.No, those are two completely different things.
Xenophobia:
Xenophobia has two main objects:
The first is a population group present within a society that is not considered part of that society. Often they are recent immigrants, but xenophobia may be directed against a group which has been present for centuries, or became part of this society through conquest and territorial expansion. This form of xenophobia can elicit or facilitate hostile and violent reactions, such as mass expulsion of immigrants, pogroms or in the worst case, genocide.
The second form of xenophobia is primarily cultural, and the objects of the phobia are cultural elements which are considered alien. All cultures are subject to external influences, but cultural xenophobia is often narrowly directed, for instance, at foreign loan words in a national language. It rarely leads to aggression against individual persons, but can result in political campaigns for cultural or linguistic purification.
Homophobia:
Classification
A Volkswagen Beetle ("Bug") owner in response to !@# graffiti spray-painted on her car christened it "The %^&bug" and embarked on a trans-American road trip to raise awareness of homophobia and LGBT rights.
Homophobia manifests in different forms, and a number of different types have been postulated, among which are internalized homophobia, social homophobia, emotional homophobia, rationalized homophobia, and others. There were also ideas to classify homophobia, racism, and sexism as an intolerant personality disorder.
Homophobia is not mentioned directly in any diseases classifications (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders and International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems). For some, homophobia is a non-clinical term.
David Hall contrasts homophobia with heterosexism, which he describes as a belief that heterosexuality is better than homosexuality, and deserving of distinct rights and privileges: "A phobia is an irrational fear. When you have a phobia, you either flee what you fear or attack and attempt to destroy what you fear", and cites Matthew Shepard and Lawrence King as victims of this. He explains that also, "people who are fired from their jobs for being lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender are victims of homophobia."
As I said before, your Xenophobia link doesn't have a connection to Homophobia, they are too different things... but I guess most would rather be called a xenophob then a homophob
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Adamsm
Homos are feared for the same reasons as foreigners or strangers.Not really, but still, there is a difference between homophobia and xenophobia, and you yourself haven't proven a link between the two.
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Hyperspacerebel
Well disliking someone is like fearing some one, doesn't make so much difference.
Uhhh...
I dislike seafood. I don't fear it.
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