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No Thrall, no Cairne, true horde gone for good?
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Post by
dhampir1989
Cairne will not stand for Garrosh.
He may not die, but I cant see him following him. He will likely go hermit and leave his son to it.
Post by
GenXCub
What I hope people realize is that if something like the lore of a
video game
can bring out such emotion, it is because the writing is excellent.
Just as people love to hate a good movie villain... it just means the actor/writer is doing something right.
Talk about the feelings you have, because it's a story you like, but when you bash Blizzard, it shows a lack of critical thought. They're not the most successful MMO for nothing.
Bolvar was ganked in a cut-scene, and people are getting by fine.
Post by
Gnoktish
Dammit Jaina, just consult Thrall into choosing Saurfang as the leader! already he's more smart and honorable then that crappy Garrosh. if Thrall leaves, Saurfang should of taken leader as Thrall went to a expedition with Jaina. that would make more sense then Garrosh taking lead all of a sudden
Post by
genericname
And you're missing my "Thing", along with your horrible spelling and grammatical errors as well Mr. taurenmoo812.
1. My point being is, Are you on a Roleplaying server: Your statement with your orc shaman having to Muscle through it sounded a bit more like you consider him to be a part of his own world. Which is completely asinine unless you were a roleplayer, which opened up one of two things, Roleplaying on the WoW Forums, or Roleplaying on the WoW Game. If you did either or, so be it, it was more for my own knowledge. I'm not going to say I hate the WoW Lore, god knows I've got most of their books.
2. You shouldn't mention the "Changing Face" in the Horde, simply cause there are hundreds of threads doing the SAME EXACT THING yours is. QQing about Garrosh going, "I don't want Thrall to leave." or "I don't want Cairne to die." Honestly, Deal with it like the rest of the Horde is. It hasn't happened yet, you don't know what Blizzard has in mind for Garrosh, yet you continue to try to Slander Garrosh's name. Just let Blizzard do what they want with their characters, and let what will be be.
3. Just because they have Forum Moderator's and the works, does not mean that they listen to the community 100% of the time. They are giving you Arthas Menethil(AKA The Lich King) as a 10-25 man raid. A "Majority" are happy that they'll finally get to defeat the Lich King. Whereas the other "Majority"(Myself included) are rather irked with Blizzard by not making Arthas a higher amount of people needed to slay him(In much the same way the original Nax was a 40, I too believe that Arthas should be a 40). However, that brings back to my point of, Blizzard doesn't care enough to discover what every player wants. Hence proving my point once again that Blizzard doesn't do what EVERYONE wants, like you try to make it out to be.
Again, If you don't like the way the Horde is going, Transfer Factions. There's a reason Blizzard gave people that option. If you don't want to play Horde now because Thrall is going to become Obi-Wan Kenobi and become more powerful than you can imagine and can't stomach going to the Alliance, Quit WoW, and go play Aion.
Post by
Adamsm
Garrosh's time is coming....
Post by
Arkham
What I hope people realize is that if something like the lore of a
video game
can bring out such emotion, it is because the writing is excellent.While I personally like the direction Garrosh is taking the Horde in, I nevertheless have to take issue with your logic here. People getting up in arms about a story development does not inherently mean it
must
have been a good idea, or that it
must
be a well-written development. People could just as easily be reacting with understandable irritation to a badly-done story arc, just as easily as they could be cultivating irrational outrage over a perfectly well-done arc.
People need to be reacting in certain ways for that kind of thing to be true, whether those ways are positive or negative. But it's definitely not enough to say "if people are reacting strongly to it, then it must be good." It simply doesn't work at that level.
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Post by
taurenmoo812
I personally think it'll work out
great
I mean your all arguing about a small piece of the puzzle blizzard knows what they're doing and even though I'm alliance I'm looking forward to a Garrosh lead Horde it just brings in the war in warcraft
See this is a point I raised in another post. The ONLY reason the few people who say they like Garrosh is the excuse he's giving to make more warfair between the two sides, meaning its not Garrosh who they like its just the excuse he brings. And well I like having an excuse to want to kill alliance myself, the very concept has no continuity to it. The defies the free will of characters being able to choose between wanting to fight the alliance, and those who don't. It was perfectly balanced before.
I don't play warcraft before of the WAR in it, thats a tedious excuse. I love warcraft for the lore and its characters, not the endless pvping.
Also I can just see Thrall overthrowing Garrosh in cataclysm
or mabye Thrall kills Garrosh
or Garrosh ends up becoming a raid boss near the end of cata
Perhaps this, though it would defy Thralls character. Garrosh is the son of his best friend, so he owes it to Grom he feels to try and mold Garrosh into a leader.. but it seems that could well have been a mistake on Thrall part, and once he will regret when he sees how Garrosh turns his people into the same kind of orcs they were in through the dark portal.
I do recon on Garrosh only being made into someone people will want to kill, even the horde themselves.
Post by
jamesisgreat
I'm with vgkthehordeslaye - what if it's just the start of a plot that will stretch through the whole of Cataclysm? In 4.4 or something, you finally restore Thrall to his rightful place as leader of the Horde?
I play mostly Alliance, but I'd love that sort of character development / plot advancement within my faction.
Post by
taurenmoo812
I'm with vgkthehordeslaye - what if it's just the start of a plot that will stretch through the whole of Cataclysm? In 4.4 or something, you finally restore Thrall to his rightful place as leader of the Horde?
I play mostly Alliance, but I'd love that sort of character development / plot advancement within my faction.
Well this wouldn't be bad and I agree, to have a plot like that would be a good means to shaking things up.
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Post by
taurenmoo812
Garrosh taking control of the horde and making it into the kind of horde it was in rise of the horde, mainly stupid, bloodthursty and only want for fighting.
So it'll be the Horde like it is now? But without it's posterboy for peace?
Thats such an uncreative way of dismissing it its laughable.
The horde in through the dark portal were the aggressors then. In the wars following however they proved there heroism and courage when faced against the burning legion, the silithids, and the scourge. And that 'poster boy' you say made that possible, seen as how without Thrall as leader of the horde then, the alliance wouldn't have been strong enough to stand against such forces, end of.
At least Thrall represents something with the horde that gives it that valor. The alliance doesn't have anyone to represent theres now, it sure as hell isn't Varian, and the other leaders and in the background.
Post by
genericname
Thats such an uncreative way of dismissing it its laughable.
The horde in through the dark portal were the aggressors then. In the wars following however they proved there heroism and courage when faced against the burning legion, the silithids, and the scourge. And that 'poster boy' you say made that possible, seen as how without Thrall as leader of the horde then, the alliance wouldn't have been strong enough to stand against such forces, end of.
At least Thrall represents something with the horde that gives it that valor. The alliance doesn't have anyone to represent theres now, it sure as hell isn't Varian, and the other leaders and in the background.
Honestly? Here we go...yet again.
Just let your thread die. Period.
Blizzard has reasons, and personally, I think one of the main reasons is simply, "Stop comparing Garrosh to Thrall." Because like I've repeated...at least three times in this thread(ALONE) Garrosh hasn't even been given a chance. He's Grom Hellscreams' son. Meaning OF COURSE there's going to be a lot more WAR in the WoW Universe after Cata comes out. Honestly, I was getting sick and tired of the "Oh...such a dire situation has happened where both the Alliance AND the Horde have to team up to beat it."
True, without Thrall the Horde wouldn't be where it is today, hell the Orcs would probably still be in interment camps if it wasn't for him. Point being, Give Garrosh a chance before you start bashing him.
If Cataclysm comes out and Garrosh truly fubar the Horde, then you can come back and feel free to say "You were wrong!" but until then, shut up >.<
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Post by
skumbananer
The true horde is about to form when Garrosh leads it. I would like to see the horde recruiting fel orcs in Outlands as elite guards in the throne room, cauldrons of demon blood to drink and get buffs from at the horde inns etc etc.
maybe a quest to assassinate Thrall when he tries to get leadership back.
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Post by
taurenmoo812
It's a game.
At the end of Cataclysm, Garrosh will be killed, Cairne will be ressurected in a rain of flowers and rainbows, Thrall will become again the ruler of the Horde, Deathwing will die and all will be well.
There can't be a climax in a game without creating a lil' bit of tension.
You know some of us actully give a crap about the games lore and its characters, unlike you who just passes it off as 'just a game' so leave those to talk about it, or post on your facebook page.
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