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How would YOU improve the Randomness Forum?
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Post by
TheOnyx
I'd take MyTie's advice. You're working on a ban here. We are more than willing to discuss your issues with specific moderators, but if you insist on drawing this out in public, we'll react in kind.
Post by
273605
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Post by
MyTie
Dragon - I would consider it a personal favor if you took a break for a few hours.
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273605
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Post by
TheOnyx
I don't have any problems with the current moderators, other than, they don't understand randomness like the randomness users do. They do their best, and they work very hard to be fair. I admire them more than I ever have lately due to thier level of maturity and professionalism. I am not even saying we should get rid of the moderators we have. All I am saying is that we should do the majority of the moderation ourselves.
Think about how randomness flows. When left alone, it does really amazing and intelligent things. I just would like to see that go in its own direction. Why do I want that? Because I recognize the potential.
By 'moderating ourselves', are you intimating that the community would elect a set of moderators or that the community would moderate through a Slashdot-type system where users rank/report posts?
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278900
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Post by
MyTie
By 'moderating ourselves', are you intimating that the community would elect a set of moderators or that the community would moderate through a Slashdot-type system where users rank/report posts?
My instincts tell me that the first would be more effective. It would encourage involvment, teach us a lesson in government, it would be more fun, it would make moderator subject to thier decisions and inputs, make randomness moderated more reguarly, and it would ease the burden on the wowhead staff, at least, in the long run.
Post by
Skyfire
most of the
recent
altercations in randomness
Fix'd.
Post by
TheOnyx
posts and threads should have a rating system, like comments do.
this would allow the mods to more easily lock or moderate threads that are causing the community strife.
also, and i know this isnt a direct improvement to the forums, but i think Corgan should be kept out of, or kept from posting in randomness. As a mostly neutral observer, i have noticed that most of the altercations in randomness have been following a post or incident involving Corgan, and i think that if he refrains from posting here, such arguments can be avoided.
Basically, Corgan can have IRC, leave randomness to us and Sky :P
Thank you for delivering this complaint in a constructive manner. :)
Post by
Kristopher
I believe we have more freedoms than the other forums, and that some people abuse these freedoms.
All I would like to come out of randomness, is to see it split up into two boards. Forum games, and what ever stuff in randomness that isn't a forum game.
But as many people have said before, Wowhead is for World of Warcraft related stuff, not for what randomness is classified as.
Implementing a self-moderator system would help too as it seems that the mods who moderate this place aren't (as) familiar with randomness as the veteran users are.
Although I would like to see some changes around here, it isn't going to change my opinion of the place if none are made.
EDIT: Everyone seems to have beat me to the punch while I was thinking this out, so the is just my opinion now.
Post by
Arideni
The concerns I have with a rating system ala the comments, if implemented for forum posts, is that many users will disagree with a certain post and rate it with bias.
I see this exemplified by the Report feature. A user doesn't agree with someone and they report the post. A post showcasing the various types of canine or aviary pets could be a great contribution to the Hunter forums, but let a few bears or cats fans come along and a problem ensues.
I am 100% against any feature which has the potential to hinder or cease spread of information. This is far and beyond more important than any freedoms or self-moderating idealism, in my opinion.
Post by
278900
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Post by
MyTie
It could also be abused by a clic of bored people. Ratings have thier uses on some boards, but in my opinion we can do better.
@Raj - The ones voted in would more than likely be the people who were around the most, and popuarly suited for the job.
Post by
TheOnyx
It could also be abused by a clic of bored people. Ratings have thier uses on some boards, but in my opinion we can do better.
@Raj - The ones voted in would more than likely be the people who were around the most, and popuarly suited for the job.
Just to play devil's advocate here, a group of the people who were 'around the most' could easily be considered a clique in and of itself.
Post by
kattib
Just to play devil's advocate here, a group of the people who were 'around the most' could easily be considered a clique in and of itself.
Gotta say that is a good devils advocate play right there :P
One idea for possible self moderation is maybe give moderation of topics to those who made the topics? They could limit the offtopic talk and the like. I cant say it would be perfect but it is an idea
Post by
MyTie
It could also be abused by a clic of bored people. Ratings have thier uses on some boards, but in my opinion we can do better.
@Raj - The ones voted in would more than likely be the people who were around the most, and popuarly suited for the job.
Just to play devil's advocate here, a group of the people who were 'around the most' could easily be considered a clique in and of itself.
That's true, but a small clic can't overturn the votes of the majority. In the comment rating system, they can attack specific comments, or even entire threads for no reason but to grief. Most comments wouldn't get voted on, so a group of people could go in and thrash around quite a bit, and still be following the rules. It would take a major group to elect in thier own mod, who would still be subject to the regular mods. Besides, if that happened, wouldn't that then be the majority, and not just a clic anymore?
My point is that the rating system is subject to small clics... while the vote mod system is subject to the majority.
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278900
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Post by
TheOnyx
One idea for possible self moderation is maybe give moderation of topics to those who made the topics? They could limit the offtopic talk and the like. I cant say it would be perfect but it is an idea
This seems too easily-abused. Someone could post a flame thread, then mod down all dissenting comments.
Post by
Arideni
The difference between a team of regular users and a team of moderators is that we, as moderators and various other members of staff, have a support team to fall back upon and rely on to guide us in making appropriate decisions when necessary.
You won't find that kind of potential for compassion with a fixed rating system on forum posts. In fact, with so many regulars and such frequent visitation by these large numbers, many posts would likely sink to the bottom before even being discovered. Of course, this is probably what Randomness needs, but I have grown to love the forum as opposed to hate it and it really does deserve more.
EDIT
: A voted community watcher would be no more effective than a moderator and cause twice as much workload implementing. For example, a small clique can jump on a new thread or post quickly and gain control before the majority gets to view it. An appointed watcher would be no different...
It there becomes an issue of trust...and that is where we moderators must strive to uphold the values of the website without breaking that bond with its users. If we can't be trusted to do the right thing, then our users aren't going to respect our decisions (or us). When that happens, we have complete chaos.
Post by
kattib
Yeah, I suppose, never said it was perfect....but since I cannot come up with a new idea I will try to augment the mod your own topics idea
What if you give them a certain amount of moderations proportional to replies? Also as for the flame thread, people make those and the only way to really fix those is have them locked.
Man making ideas is hard
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