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Comment by 95556

Spell Hit vs. Spell Crit for Prot Paladins.

Although Spell Crit is nice in terms of generating extra threat when Crit procs, Spell Hit saves from Miss on the pull, which is also very important.

Comment by Shivacode

I think its nice that Blizzard finally throws hybrids (and shadow priests) a bone with this thing.

Close enough to T5/S2 quality, and easy to get (2nd boss!)

Comment by 45811

Amani Punisher = 20 Spell Hit Rating = 20 / 12.6 = 1.587% Spell Hit

16% Spell Hit (202 Spell Hit Rating) is required to max out against a level 73 mob at 99%.

Comment by 52664

PvE equivalent to the Season 3 Merciless Gladiator's Gavel: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32963

With this you get:
+3 STA
+3 INT
+5 Spell Hit Rating
-8 Spell Damage
-18 Resilience Rating (equivalent to 11.4 Defense Skill for anti-crit purposes)

Comment by 91023

As a Shadow Priest who sees this boss die every few days I'm gunning for this Mace hard out. There is nothing on it I don't want, in my opinion it's way more useful to me than my other option for main hand PvE weapon the Mindblade.

Currently I use the Staff of Infinite Mysteries and and looking to make up some of the +hit and intel I'll lose from the main hand / off-hand combo of "X" and Orb of the Soul Eater. Losing some +stam isn't such a big deal.

For Shadow Priest's I think this weapon is a welcome addition and even replacement for anything pre Hyjal excluding the Merc. weaps.

Comment by fabio

I play a paladin tank. I was looking forward for this mace to drop, and it finally did. The +spell dmg is so great that I'll not even bother enchanting it Major Spellpower or Greater Intellect: for the 1st time, I'll have a Mongoose enchanted weapon.

The +spell hit helps a lot, too.

Comment by 72186

Ultimately irrelevant perhaps but this weapon is awesome looking. Sure beats the hell out of carrying some ubiquitous Greatsword of Horrid Dreams or Continuum Blade as a prot paladin.

Comment by 86628

I have this on both my priest (formerly shadow) and my prot pally. I'd say if it was between the two, its better for my pally since its the best tanking weapon til Hyjal, whereas my priest would have other options in the form of staves and in the shadow priest mentality, this weapon ranks considerably lower than alot of others, including Wub's. However, for a pvp/pve shadow priest, this mace is pretty &*!@, I threw soulfrost on mine and love it because of the stam and +hit. Most raiding shadow priests stack spell damage and crit to the point that they are paper dolls though and ignore stam for the most part.

Edit: wtf, you can't say !@#$? substitute "awesome" then.

Edit2: oh so I can say %^&* in an edit?

Comment by 116147

Amani Tuning Fork

Comment by Alterraia

This is for sure my new tanking weapon, replacing Gavel of Unearthed Secrets. Now the question I have is: what enchant do I put on it? +40 spl dmg would be nice, but would be an over abundance of spl dmg. Protadins need around 300 spl dmg, and if you're there w/ gear alone (including the given 217 from this mace), you don't need to add more.

The only enchant I can think of putting on this would be Mongoose. Correct me if I'm wrong, but with that amount of spl dmg given, why not put the enchant that adds to your mitigation on proc (which it procs A LOT). Anyone have a recommendation for a good enchant to put in this mace for a protadin?

Come to think of it, would Deathfrost be a good enchant on this mace? It has yet to be confirmed whether the proc works on bosses (but I highly doubt it does).

Comment by 139641

Why not combine this with Orb of the Soul-Eater and add a little Soulfrost to get an overkiller Shadow Priest/Aflliction Lock weapon set :)

Comment by Ocho

This is good for Elemental Shaman like me who do not use Tier pieces. My Shaman skipped T5 content entirely and hasn't picked up any T6 yet, wearing mostly Zul'Aman, Badge and Non-set loot. I imagine the same applies to any Elemental Shaman who do not regularly see 25 man content.

I wear the Nathrezim Mindblade for trash and switch in the Amani Punisher to hit cap me (along with the Mana Attuned Band) for bosses. It works well for me.

Comment by 134732

Althought the hit on it may seem very unappealing to an ele shammy, I found the perfect combo for an ele shaman to reach his hit cap of 52. Get this one, https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28810 from Gruul and https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29191 on your helmet. This way you can focus all other gear/enchants/gems on crit/haste/spell dmg. <3

Comment by 160970

Rogue weapon....

Comment by 156989

Prot pallys should definately be allowed to roll on this, but is Fang of Lev an upgrade of it?

Comment by 145160

Give this mace to prot palis and boomkins if they need it before giving it to anyone else or rolling on it.

SPs and Elemental Shaman use badges to get the best item for the slot outside of Sunwell and OP Brutal Glad Gear:

Scryer's Blade of Focus

http://maxdps.com/

The high stm on this mace is also good in T6 where you need a baseline amount of health for certain encounters (e.g. Naj'entus) or where you are getting single target blasted (e.g. Illidan's Dark Barrage). Going into t6 without worrying about stm at all and having low hp is going to make it tougher on your healers and you'll get gibbed a lot easier. You can't DPS if you're dead because you got gibbed by predictable incoming damage (spine) that hit you for more than your max health, or you get an unlucky position/combo on Illidari Council.

Comment by Plummix

Alright, I'm having a Tough decision on what to do.

This or https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=33354#dropped-by From ZA for a Shadow priest? I'm not in Dire need of Hit, I'm at 15.80ish % hit already.

Comment by Allakhazam

I got this last night.

I was so happy, the very same day I got member status and this item dropped, so I was allowed to roll on it. Rolled 73 and all mine! :D

Looks awesome with soulfrost enchant on a shadowpriest. :D

Comment by Thottbot

A Great weapon for a Shadowpreist.

i wouldn't touch it on my elemental Shaman *shudders* Spellhit.. Ewwwww.

Mebbeh a Nice Tankadin Weapon (For the spelldmg+spellhit so other gear can be used for +defence ect ect blah blah)

right thats my 2c. flame away.

oh...

One Bi-tch of a boss if you dont have Great co-ordiantion.

Comment by Thottbot

Almost got it on my Tankadin in Zul'Aman, but got out-rolled by a moonkin =[

It's a really great weapon for tankadins, a vast improvement from Crystalforged Sword which I've had for a while.

Even though it doesn't have any shield block rating, the massive spell damage, spell hit and the extra intellect makes it all worth it.

Looks epic, can't wait til the next time it drops =P

Comment by Thottbot

Wow, you are an idiot. If you didn't know already, a paladin tank generates more threat depending on the spell dmg te paladin has. So, the more spell dmg, the better you are at holding aggro.

Comment by Thottbot

Fanally... a decent "get-able" weapon for Paladin Tanks that don't like to pvp and get the Merciless Gladiator's Gavel.

Comment by Thottbot

SPs can get better in SSC..

I'm interested in knowing what exactly drops in SSC better than this? First one that I know of is a rare random drop in Mount Hyjal.

And have you ever considered the fact that some guilds can easily do 10-man instances but not 25-man?

Comment by Thottbot

Are we going through this "Why would a paladin tank need this?" discussion again? For Christ sake, do your homework, you clueless people. I could have sworn that this was all covered in the other stereotypical caster-DPS weapon information threads:
Mana Wrath
Continuum Blade
Greatsword of Horrid Dreams
Crystalforged Sword

I mean honestly, and I know a majority of those that are BSing on here are trolling Warriors who are getting upstaged by paladins and druids. Time to get a clue.

We can tank big and small raids. I have power-tanked through Karazhan in 3.5 hours with a full boss clear because I don't need CC whatsoever. Nor is tanking Maiden a problem for me, regardless of the Silences she does. And yes, we do tank "big" raids. As I have in SSC and ZA. Like Lurker. . .
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/ichinomiya/wow/WoWScrnShot_112807_194121.jpg

. . . and Leotheras The Blind.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/ichinomiya/wow/WoWScrnShot_120107_224524.jpg
Wake up, Warriors. It's a new day.

Personally this has been a major upgrade for me, as I've seen with an increase in my TSP over the Crystalforged Sword and Greatsword of Horrid Dreams. Averaging around 900-1000+ TPS over the 700+ I had with the Greatsword. A Shadow Priest can attempt to pull threat off me, but they will have a long and asinine fight on their hands.

If you are a tanking paladin and manage to get a hold of this weapon, it will last you a long time. You have as much right to roll on this as a shadow priest does. With it, I now have no intention in rolling on the Bloodmaw Magus-Blade from Gruul, or the Fang of the Leviathan from Leotheras (Even though I admit both look cool as hell! ^^).

Once I got this, I vendored my Crystalforged and Continuum Blade. No looking back.

Celesi
Kirin Tor

Comment by Thottbot

Little information for the 'slower' people who haven't been reading for the last 8 months.

Paladins, unlike most tanks, dont care at all what dps the weapon says. The bulk of their aggro is their spelldamage.

Roughtly 25% of a Paladins threat is generated from Holy Shield. More spelldamage, more holy shield damage = more threat.

Our 'Righteous Fury', if you look, increases threat done through 'Holy Damage' by 90% once talented.

I'm not sure if this hits you yet, but that means the more holy damage we do, (wanna guess?) . . . . . The more THREAT we generate.

So, in simple terms, more holy damage = more threat.

If you cant understand this, then explain to me why Warlock tanks dont use a pure dps sword? ZOMG they use spelldamage to keep aggro? Guess what. So do we. We're a caster type tank.

Well what do I know? Seriously?..... I was tanking Vashj last night.. Didn't lose aggro once.. Good day!

Comment by Thottbot

heh i sit here and read all this and i really wonder why ppl bother iits a moot point just let ppl think what they want. If were to say this weap was a hunter weap there would be a trillion bs things about it. thats what these ppl are trying to do they are trying to stir up trouble they want you to say this is for that ect ect. just drop it if you know pallys are great tanks and use spell dmg to do it then so be it thats all that matters no? really these things do more harm then good just let ppl be ppl. peace love amd jelly beans.

Comment by Thottbot

look, saying that only shadowpriests is can roll on this is selfish, and saying a tankadan should get first dibs on it is being a self-righteous moron. The facts come down when you find out that when it comes to a weapon shadowpriests and palladans want THE SAME STATS, priest will use the 30 stamina cuz ZOMG bosses AoE! and many bosses hit really hard AoE (this shade and his 7k aoe), paladans generate spelldam through damage so yes they can use the spellcaster stats. priests dont get swords like locks and mages and most spelldam daggers these days have spell crit (ewwwwww, spellcrit) so a lot of priest have to settle with something nowhere near as catered to them as this wep (catered to tankadans too).

Come on, we're priests, we're paldans, if we cant spread the love an the least we can do is let eachother roll on the same mace.

Comment by Thottbot

Shaman rolled against me tonight on this. He had mindblade and I had Lights justice. I am a SP, but since 2.3 and damage on healing gear lt was better than my old bringer of death. Anyway maybe I will get lucky next time it drops.

Comment by Thottbot

I am a shadow peist and would definitely roll on this and would expect a pali to do the same.. May the best man or women win it ;) Isnt about arging who gets it is both recognising is good for bloth classes and congratuatling the other when they get the need roll and swear under your breath you better get it next time lol....

Comment by Thottbot

I always chuckle at these threads when some self-righteous person makes a stupid claim like "This is a paladin item" or "This is a rogue item" or "This is a warrior item".

One of the magical properties that some of these items have in common is that maybe (just maybe)multiple classes and multiple talent specs could find the item useful and even preferential to other similar items.

I agree with the people who say that this is a fantastic Paladin Tanking weapon. The spell damage and stamina really shine here, making it a fine item for tankadins. However, note that this item does not have every single stat needed by paladin tanks.

I also agree with the party who believes that this is an excellent caster weapon. I personally got this item last night on my shadow priest and it is a very attractive item because it has high spell damage (our most important stat) and it also boasts some rather attractive spell hit (which means I can re-gem and add more spell damage gems) and it isn't laden with spell crit (which makes many shadow priests cringe). However, note that this item is still not the end-all-be-all MH for shadow priests.

Can this item be good for more than one class, more than one spec? OF COURSE IT CAN.

For those people who whine about who is going to take an item over another person. That is up to how your guild/raid leader decides to run loot distribution. A polite raider (one serious about getting the guild to progress) would pass to the person who could better utilize the upgrade. If it's glaringly obvious, it should go to that person -- if it's not obvious, roll on it! If you win YAY, if you lose GET OVER IT!

And for the intelligent person who suggested that casters don't need any stamina because they won't be getting hit: 1st--good luck in high-end content with 6000HP, 2nd--ask your casters to take off all their gear with Stamina (since it's obviously not made for them) and see if you can beat enrage timers and/or down bosses before your healers OOM.

Comment by Thottbot

Heh, I absolutly love this weapon. I play a shadow priest so i know it is going to last me to Hyjal(or 2.4 whichever comes first)Lol this is also a great Tankadin wepon. Theres been some debate about ele shammies i dont think it is too good becuase from what i hear ele shammies dont need hit! But basicly if your a spriest wtih 1000+ spell damage YOU NEED THIS WEAPON! Run ZA every week drops off the Eagle boss in ZA.

(If i see one more Shadow Priest with a 2 hander i might have to go murder children) Kthxbi (Slaycrazy-Damage Control-Magtheridon

Comment by Thottbot

Got it with my MTankadin. Awesome weapon! The spell-hit is really noticable as bosses resist less. I am glad that there are now several pally tank items that give spell hit as well (Belt of the Protector etc.).

Comment by Thottbot

Funny stuff, however .. any tank that knows the game and it's mechanices should not argue over this weapon. If your guild is in for progression first , it should go to a pally tank. If however, you guild is based off of fairness and fair chance, a shadow priest or boomkin could possibly use it. I will agree that it is a prot pally's dream.. but it's easily farmable and definetly good for a Spriest too. One of the best weapons in the game for an spriest. So yeach, it is good for either

Comment by Thottbot

I love the amount of effort people go to analysing this game.

I work in IT in a senior position and can tell you that there are business analysts out there that go to less trouble analysing business cases than you guys go to analysing A GAME! , and they get paid a BUCKET LOAD of money to do it.

My advice to everyone here...stop wasting your time with this and go out and get a very highly paid job doing something relevant.

Comment by Thottbot

^^ Can we get an AMEN!

Comment by Thottbot

It is good for pallytanks. I am a pally tank. I have just been in Zul'Aman with a group of mates, using Continuum Blade with +40 spldmg. I out-tanked the druid on Nalorakk (Who had 20k hp to my 17k) mainly using Consecration with a few AS's to boost my aggro. This mace would be a -massive- improvement for me, even if purely for the spelldmg. Paladins need spelldmg to tank, as 99.999% of their aggro= consecration, which is affected strongly by spldmg. Case closed. Wish me luck on Akil'zon, hope the mace drops.

Comment by Thottbot

Nice for pally tanks....that all i got to say. :P

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Amani Punisher

	Phase 4

Item Level 132
Binds when picked up

Main Hand	Mace

20 - 112 Damage	Speed 1.60

(41.25 damage per second)
+30 Stamina
+21 Intellect
Durability 105 / 105

Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves spell hit rating by 20.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 217.

Sell Price: 13 22 15

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