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Comment by 6130

Just saw a member of The Violet Eye northeast of Dalaran and decided to look this up. This will be AMAZING for casters depending on the item cooldown.

Comment by 10061

I talked to a NPC in Deadwind Pass, He made me Neutral to the Violet Eye rep

Comment by 11346

I'm not sure how this trinket works. Two periods of 20 seconds are mentioned in the description. But it's not quite clear when they occur. Do the effects happen at the same time? If yes, the trinket would be fairly lousy. But I think, the effects occur one after another. So at first, you have 20 seconds to cast as many spells as possible. After that, you gain a bonus effect lasting over 20 seconds, granting you mana fourteen times the number of spells you cast during the previous 20 seconds. Could be a nice gimmick in certain cases (Arcane explosions, low-level Shadow Word:Pain, Mind Flay or warlocks spamming curses during pvp).

Comment by Arador

The way I read it, for as long as its active (20 seconds), each successful spellcast will grant you a stacking buff that gives you 14 mana / 5 seconds per stack. The buff itself lasts 20 seconds.

So if you fire this up and only cast one spell right at the start, you'll have 14 mana / 5 seconds for 20 seconds right after activating the trinket. But if you cast say 5 spells within the 20 seconds the trinket is active, you'll build up to 70 mana / 5 seconds right before the trinket expires, and you'll benefit from that mana regen for another 20 seconds (during those 20 seconds you'd regen 280 mana).

Depending on how this trinket works we're looking at some pretty substantial regen, as you could theoretically max out at one spell per global cooldown leaving you with 13 stacks or 182 mana / 5 seconds when the trinket expires, which will regenerate 728 mana over the 20 seconds the buff is active, plus whatever mana you regenerate while building up the buff. Keep in mind though that you're spending mana to regenerate it.

Also make note that the cooldown is 2 minutes, meaning you'll get to use it more than once in most boss fights.

Comment by Glow

Prediction: You'll be so eager to stack the proc on this trinket that you'll actually wind up spending more mana than you would have if you never activated it.

Comment by 19073

I got this thing hoping that I would find some use for it and that it would actually be good but it really sucks.

The buff fades immediately after 20 seconds so if you stack it 13 times you wont get enough ticks from the stacks for it to be any benefit. I didn't regen nearly enough to make this thing worthwhile since it is a 2 minute cooldown. Maybe if it was on 1 minute it would be slightly interesting. I hope that it isn't intended to fade right away after 20 seconds.

The way it should works to make this thing good is to have the stacking buff stay on for an additional 10-20 seconds so that you'd actually get some ticks from the stacking buffs, otherwise this thing is crap.

Comment by 7371

you're only going to get 4 ticks of mana regen. if i were do use this, i would spam ice lance for 20 seconds to get the maximum. i can get about 13 casts in 20 seconds.

first tick:

3 casts off - 42 mana first tick
4 casts off - 98 mana second tick
3 casts off - 140 mana third tick
3 casts off - 182 mana fourth tick

total of 462 mana on top of my normal mp/5. if it's only a 2 minute cooldown this could be a nice trinket. don't even think about casting anything other than instant cast spells while this is proc'ing though.

Comment by a505999

As a raiding 70 paladin, this trinket looked quite impressive at first. However after some "theorycraft" it now seems lackluster.

Suppose you are attempting to gain the maximum mana return from this trinket. You are using the Rank-1 "Flash of Light" spell. Accounting for lag or user delay, the average casting time is increased from 1.5s to 2.0s.

Spellcasts finish at timepoints: 2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20 sec
MP5 ticks occur at timepoints: 5,10,15,20 sec

interval : two FoL are cast, therefore +MP5=28
interval (5,10]: three FoL are cast, therefore +MP5=70
interval (10,15]: two FoL are cast, therefore +MP5=98
interval (15,20]: three FoL are cast, therefore +MP5=140

Total mana accumulated from these +MP5 ticks=336 mana
Total mana spent on 10x FoL = 10x35 = 350 mana.

Therefore, in this most efficient scenario you are regenning an amount of mana almost as much as spent. Of course this neglects mana refund spell-crit rates from the "Illumination" talent by which for a 20% spellcrit rate you would recover an additional 70 mana (but that is independent of this trinket so not included above).

Do others think this trinket is deserving of a trinket slot on your character, while there are still other options obtainable from 5mans?

Comment by yoshi245

I got this trinket earlier from Aran and went to give it a try. I suggest equipping lower city prayer book as a trinket next to it. Start casting a rank1 healing spell and use both trinkets at once to maximize mana efficiency, I was able to regen 700 mana in the span of 20seconds using Rank1 Healing Wave on my resto shaman. Not bad, but could be better, needs buffs.

Better yet, a elemental shaman with rank1 lightning bolt and the trinket to have the mana cost of lightning bolt/chain lightning to lower mana cost by 15. That would also make it more efficient.

Comment by 775

After giving this some thought, perhaps this trinket is more for DPS classes. The reasoning behind this is: healers should, more often than not, be casting judiciously rather than spamming heals all the time (with some exceptions, depending on situation) for various reasons. As one above commenter said, you may be so eager to stack the buff that you end up burning more mana than you might regen in the end.

(Of course, this then calls the Lower City Prayerbook's use into slight question, given that it only saves mana on spells that you cast within its duration. On the other hand, it is a one minute cooldown, while this is on double that amount. Also, not casting while it is up means that you save the mana for that spell altogether, while not casting while this thing is up means you save the mana but also miss out on the regen--more of a conflict in motivation.)

Continuing in next post, dang this got spammy...

Comment by 18972

this trinket is good with innervate if youre group healing raid with hots- but even then probably not worth equipping over other trinkets (even blue ones).

Comment by 1129

btw, if you're a paladin with this. you can switch auras like mad to charge it up, and get awesome mana regen without having to spend any.

Comment by 15084

I think the best class for this item is a shadow priest, with 5 main nukes being, swp(instant), SWD(instant), VT (1.5s), MB (1.5s) and Flay (which is 3 sec channeled)

But even then it is terrible.... it should have additional stats +this on use to be viable in any situation.

Comment by 11242

As of today the item gains procs upon pressing "Find Herbs" repeatedly.

Comment by 8533

Excellent thread regarding this trinket including Paladin bugging with double-procs. There's also a 20-stack cap on how high this will go.
http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=9788

Comment by 46713

As of 4/26/07, the trinket proc's off of wand shots. If ur a mage priest or warlock with this trinket, use it and shot ur wand and it will proc. Also if u have a paladin in your group, ask them to throw up a judgement of wisdom for more mana :)

Comment by 19110

As a paladin this item regens alot of mana while flash heal spamming, since the flash heal only costs around 200 mana and heals way over 1k with my gear its a pretty efficent way to heal as a pala :)

Comment by njtwkr

This trinket is wicked after the patch, really good job by Blizzard. I'm not a healer myself, but I think that a trinket without any passive attributes is pretty lame..anyways, gr8

Comment by 9857

Flash of light (1.5 sec cast) spam:

3 spells = 21 x 3 = 63. ticks 4 times = 252 mana (4.5 seconds to cast 3)
3 spells = 21 x 3 = 63. ticks 3 times = 189 mana (9 seconds after next 3)
4 spells = 21 x 3 = 63. ticks 2 times = 126 mana (15 seconds after next 4)
3 spells = 21 x 3 = 63. ticks 1 times = 63 mana (19.5 seconds after next 3)

total regenned = 63 + 126 + 189 + 252 = 630 mana

630 mana / 24 (24 ticks of 5 seconds in 2 minute) = 26.5 mana / 5 seconds

(with no lag whatsoever and no tolerance of gaps between spell casts.)

As you can see, it is far greater than shard of the scale - especially when you factor in the +40 intellect that grants impressive spell crit.

Comment by 34641

in my opinion this trinket seems made for, and perfect for stacking lifebloom and rejuv as a resto druid.

Comment by Flyv

For balance druids, the +40 int on the post-2.1 trinket is pretty nice. With the balance talents +40 int is +10 damage, +4 mana/5 when casting, and +0.50% crit. Not to mention +600 mana. All the time, regardless of using the trinket or not. Rawr!

Comment by 57156

No need to trigger it with a 1.5sec spell becouz any instant cast i.e. priest renew rank 1 (cost:27mana) does quite well.
But there is a major question. While triggering the trinket you stay the whole time in the 5sec rule!!! and if you just wait 20sec (without any action) may you reg more mana as playing the stupid triggergame right? xD

Comment by Bmorly

I love this thing. It works wonders for all fights. Durring Gruul I pop it before reverberation or ground slam. 3 lifeblooms and a rejuve for the tank/ot then let it tick while the rest of the raid blows me up.

Though as a druid it just slows your mana consumption. Its never going to make you "regenerate" your mana when your actively healing. Your going to be healing with it it active but instead now you spend 600 on a heal and get 150 of it back. Each time you cast you are spending more but getting more back. It would be awsome if it stopped stacking but lasted another 2 or 3 ticks after the duration.

Comment by Bravehearth

I got my mana regen up to 501..

And gained about 1k mana back during the duration.

What I do is pop the trinket then cast seal of righteousness (rank 1) - 20 mana

Spam that and watch your mana go up!

Comment by 54563

Okay, see my math:

21 mp5 = 4.2 mp1
(let's assume so to get an expected value of this calculation, although mp5 is not really working like this)

Case 1: Assume you are using 1.5 sec cast spells:

1st stack will be 1.5 seconds after you use this trinket, so the duration is 18.5 seconds.
2nd stack will last 17 seconds.
3rd: 15.5 sec
...
13th: 0.5sec
Expired.

Now the total seconds of a single buff will be:
18.5+17+15.5+...+0.5 = (18.5+0.5)*13/2 = 123.5 seconds
expected mana return = 4.2 mp1*123.5 seconds = 518.7 mana

Case 2: Assume you are using instant cast spells (i.e. Renew):

1st stack will now last 20 seconds(assume you did it without any delay)
2nd stack: 18.5 sec
3rd: 17 sec
...
14th: 0.5 sec
Expired.

Now, what we get?
20+18.5+17+...+0.5 = (20+0.5)*14/2 = 143.5 seconds
expected mana return =4.2 mp1*143.5 seconds = 602.7 mana..

Comment by 57156

...so lets make it simple:
any holypriest with 450-500 spirit returns about 1700 mana within 20 sec doing nothing!
stacking this trinket like hell returns 600 mana + normal infight reg about 600 mana
the only reason to wear this trinket is the +40 Intellect

Comment by Azurai

As of 2.1.1 this trinket procs on totems (again?). As a shaman, I love this trinket for most fights, but on static positioning fights the mana regen is amazing. Totems last 2 minutes, this has 2 min CD. Automatically getting 4 stacks for mana you have to spend every 2 minutes anyway makes this trinket worth a slot for me.

40 int doesn't hurt either.

Comment by MikeL

I picked this up on my paladin and it's a fantastic trinket for him. The 40 intellect really boosts spell crit rating/mana, and the Use: is especially nifty for endurance fights when everyone's mana is running lower. The math is daunting but the truth is, this item has helped me in long fights considerably.

Comment by sardaukar

I think I might have a simpler way to see just what this trinket does...

Every spell you cast procs a 21 MP5 buff for 20 seconds. Another way to look at it is that for the duration, all your spells become 84 mana cheaper.

Comment by EvilElpay

Wow, I hate theorycraft. Are we trying to compete with thottbot for the "Most Comments for an Item I Don't Have" award? Somebody who has this and uses this just make 1 comment about this and demote everyone elses comments please.

Comment by montage

ok listen up peeps resto druid and i think this is great for me

now i havent got into the maths to a great deal but 10 rank 1 healing touches = 220 mana cost and trinket means 210 mp5 this would take me up to 500+ mp5 this would take only 10 seconds to cast so if i had used innervate at the start of the trinket i would have 2000 mps in other words 4k mana back in 10 seconds and rise's the more i cast healing touch rank 1 realy the full duration of this trinket and innervate i could get 8k mana back or more !! ...ok so i did get in to the maths a great deal..

oh and if i had raid buffs i get even more mp5 like 375 so lets say if i had 10k+ mana i could get all that backin one innervate

also can some one tell me if life bloom procs this if so wow.. i could still heal and get all that mana back

oh and little advice to get the max out of this trinket use "Lower city prayerbook " 1 min cooldown and 22 mana reduced cost each heal my healing touch rank 1 uses 2 mana !!! this means i can get my mana back to full for no cost.

who said this isnt for a healer o.0...

Comment by 50072

I have done a specific composite breakdown of this trinket:

http://destinyofapaladin.blogspot.com/2007/07/pendant-of-violet-eye.html

- Leon

Comment by fizzbang

I just got this trinket, and honestly, you can expect about 201 to 293 mana generated over the course of activation, assuming that you cast 3 to 5 quick spells as soon as you activated it.

I think that if perhaps the duration was slightly longer, or if the stacking effects had a renewed 20 second duration on each casting (meaning that, the final time time you cast while under the effects of the trinket, you would then have 20 seconds of increased MP5) that would make this trinket much more pleasing to us healers.

Honestly, it's great for the +40 Int bonus, just active it every two minutes, and cast spells as normal. More mana from any source is good.

Comment by 41652

Ahh, skip you silly healers, this is for my arcane mage! Once Arcane Blast is all cranked up, it's a 1.5s cast and burning mana like a fiend. That int is my spell crit, spell damage, and all-important mana pool... And the /use is just a little bonus regen from time to time.

Not that I'd keep it from a healer, but I'd at least want a fair roll. :)

Comment by ryguy

This trinket is also great for a Restoration Shaman. Totems proc the charges, Earth shield, Water shield, Lightning Shield, and Healing Wave rank 1 are all spells that can get you high up in charges: 11-13

The high intellect on this trinket makes great use of the Nature's Blessing talent: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=30869

Comment by 83377

This definitely has some value for a holy spec priest. Just make a macro to pop it every time I hit Circle of Healing. I usually spam that 4-5 times when a group/groups get low anyways. It would be a great way to take the edge off of that mana useage.

Comment by 87776

1. how much mana will i gain if i spam arcane missiles (each missile procs it, and you shoot one every second) ? with bloodlust/heroism this thing will be so nice i bet.

2. does procs from the lightning capacitor (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28785) trigger increased mp5 on this trinket ? i know the shaman's lightning bolt spell procs it, and the lightning from this trinket has the same name (even though it has no mana cost)....

Comment by 52093

As of 9/25 (patch day for 2.2), this item is proccing twice for each paladin heal. No complaints from me, but expect a nerf.

Comment by 89145

This trinket now stacks 2 charges per cast post 2.2
42mp5 per cast

btw the real use of this trinket as a pally is to activate it and spam level1 fol when you don't need to heal, and regular fol when you do need to throw out a heal,

you'll stack 22 charges by the time it runs out and gain a shitton of mana. Last night i used this on Gruul's a minute or 2 into the fight when healing was light and I'd only spent 2k mana (where i would usually pot). once spent I'm back up to full mana.

Comment by 62392

For some reason this trinket is giving me Enlightenments just from wanding. Is this a bug?

Comment by 56394

I just got this trinket on my druid and I am not satisfied!

There is a timer on how often you get mp5 while casting. I think the tick is every 2 seconds from what i've noticed..Maybe 2.5sec.

But now..When i activate this trinket and start spamming lifebloom all over the place without stopping this trinket resets my MP5 timer, So i end up wasting more mana when i activate it. Since it resets Mp5 timer my normal mp5 don't apply..Really sad..

Comment by 116147

I can confirm that this trinket is in fact very valuable for moonkins. 40 intellect is very helpful (600 mana, ~.5% crit, 10 spell damage, and 4 mp5). Additionally, it helps to conserve mana in boss fights, which we all know is helpful. And you can quadruple the "use" effect if you toss up an innervate right after activating the trinket. Yes, that means you can spam wrath and still end up with a significant amount more mana than you started with. It is so good that I often forgo a damage trinket to slap this puppy on.

Comment by GenericNPC

I just got this last night on my Resto Druid, and fell in love with it shortly thereafter. Since I'm more or less constantly casting instant heals (typically refreshing Lifeblooms or restacking them, which is low mana cost as is) I can realistically get 7-8 stacks before the duration expires. With only a 2min cooldown this puppy acts as a mini-innervate.

I tested it out of raid, just stacking Lifebloom repeatedly on myself. Without the trinket I should have easily used over 2500 mana, but after all was said and done, I had only used a little under 1000.

The +40 Int was a nice boost to my mana pool as well. :]

Comment by 38212

As a fire mage I stack lvl 1 scorch in between using fireball and fireblast, as im using lvl 1 scorch just for debuff, i get back quite a bit of mana and 40 intellect is sweet.

Comment by 97903

As a Paladin, I have this trinket macroed with Divine Illumination, since in return, I'll gain double the mana back of what I'd normally get without using Divine Illumination but using the Pendant.

Comment by ph3n1x

i could be wrong on this but as a tankadin this could come in handy...the way i see it pally tanks cn use all the mana regen possible...with that said in the mist of an ongoing battle while your healers heal you n you gain mana back...it doesn't seem to be enough. you pop this trinket, everytime you use concentration or holy shield etc...you'll get yourself lasting longer on mana...although you might disagree as it can take up a trinket spot for somethin necessary in your stats. if thats the case get what u need, but if you are gettin annoyed with your mana troubles should you pick this up?

Comment by magamiako

Keep an eye on this trinket for 2.4 as when the intellect regen changes go live, this might fair better than the previous favorites for a restoration druid over Bangle or the Darkmoon Card.

Comment by geef

In 2.4 seems to be proccing on wanding again. I'm sure they'll patch it though.

Comment by 128268

got this today on my pally, and when i use it 90% nothing happens, i dont get a buff most of the time, and i havent seen it even stack

Comment by 130393

ok I just got this finally last night in kara.....and I cant get the thing to proc more than 1 charge at all...am I doing something wrong? I can use it then spam FoL (I'm a pally) and I get 1 charge thats it.

Comment by 7127

I've had this on my Moonkin for a few weeks. While the +40 int is extremely handy, the on-use effect doesn't feel like it's making much difference. The problem being that if I'm casting IS (or MF), SFx4, it doesn't stack up very high, and switching to wrath spam chews more mana than I would gain.

So although I equip it for short fights and trash, I rarely bother activating it, and I switch it out for an Alchemist's Stone on any fight where mana might be a problem.

My advice: if you want it for the +40int, get it. But the on-use effect is really nothing special.

Comment by lolchick

and what about using this item while heroism is active?cast time decrices so you get more stacks of MP/5 in 20 sec...(sorry for bad english)

Comment by Kalken

As of patch 2.4.1 this procs on the shaman spell Totemic Call as long as you receive mana from it. So basically when refreshing totems eveyr two minutes pop this trinket, Totemic Call, and drop your 4 totems of choice and you would have 5 stacks of the buff right away.

Comment by Elektron

This trinket is very useful for Arcane Mages in a long boss fight.

1/ It give +40 int, which means more mana and more +dmg with the arcane talents. Even more with the Ember Meta Gem +2% int (= 49 int).

2/ it is very easy to get the buff - just 3x Arcane Missles as the trinket proc's on each missle hit (= 15 stacks in 15 sec with haste rating). Be sure to use Mage Armor (who doesn't ?) to keep up mp5 during casts.

3/ Use especially when you have the AB debuff and are chaining with Arcane Power - it basically gives you the power of the debuff without the mana cost.

Thus a suggested rotation when you have activated this trinket: AM, AM, AM, AB AB AB Arcane Power, (other trinket), AB nuke till Arcane Power is off, then scorch or frost bolt to restore a bit of mana (my mp5 during casting is around 250, but with totems, etc. I actually gain mana with frostbolt casting), then restart when trinket is off cool down.

In all, and enormously useful trinket for an Arcane Mage - worth the dpk! Able to last the whole fight with Al'ar (Tempest Keep boss) by using this trinket and spamming Arcane Missles without a single potion or gem (just time the buff so that you have it while running to next platform), something which was enormously mana expensive (potions = $$$) before is now quite easy.

Good luck in any case - don't feel guilty if you outbid the healer in dpk for this trinket - it will mean he has less to heal as the boss will go down much faster since you are never oom :).

Comment by sorrowdc

Its bugged at the moment, it doesn't proc off holy light or flash of light...

Comment by Bigoz

Procs on fishing casts!

Comment by 31322

This trinket is not working in MH & BT, why?

Comment by 142785

I have seen a Blue Post on wowforums saying they are looking into it.
After doing some testing of my own here is what I found.

Doesn't work with:

Any Paladin Healing Spell (Holy Light, Flash of Light, Holy Shock)

Works with:

Any and all Blessings / Seals / Judgements
Hammer of Justice / Hammer of Wrath
Holy Shock (Offensive DMG only)
Consecration
All offensive spells

Haven't tested

Prot Paladin only abilities (Holy Shield, Avenger's Shield)
Ret Paladin only abilities (Repetence, Crusader Strike)
Auras (although they shouldn't work)

The absolute best use for this trinket is spamming arcane missiles. The initial cast counts as a cast, and every missile counts as a cast. That's 6 casts every 5 seconds, and no gcd to worry about. Add icy veins and heroism to the mix and you can hit some pretty insane Regen numbers.

50% cast speed from heroism and icy veins (unless it's multiplicative which would make it better) gives us an arcane missiles cast every 3.3 seconds, giving us 3 casts per 10 seconds (18 stacks) , and 36 total stacks over the duration.

This means at 5 seconds we are at about 200 MP5, at 10 seconds we are at about 400 MP5, and at 15 seconds we are at 600 MP5, I'll add 200 since I'm not counting the differences between the 5 second intervals giving us a total of 1400 regenerated. I'll spare u some math, with no haste buffs using arcane missiles still gives u around 800 mana and with icy veins it's somewhere between those.

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Pendant of the Violet Eye

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Item Level 115
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+40 Intellect

Requires Level 70
Use: Each spell cast within 20 seconds will grant a stacking bonus of 21 mana regen per 5 sec. Expires after 20 seconds. Abilities with no mana cost will not trigger this trinket. (2 Min Cooldown)

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