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Comment by 28576

if the spell reflect procs does it mean that if a mage pyroblast crits you for 7k that he will be one-shot by his own spell, or that it will reflect 1% of every spell?

Comment by Nicarras

so this requires you to have 5 red gems on your gear somewhere? Trying to figure out how these meta gems worked.

Comment by Drosera

Threw rigorous experimentation, ( And I do mean rigorous, at 1% this took forever. ) I have determined that the Spell Reflect does indeed reflect the spell fully back to the caster, and the damage it does is based on the original casters spell damage, and crit rating.

The Spell Reflect only happens 1% of the time. It does not, contrary to some rumor going arround, reflect 1% of the damage of every spell cast upon you.

This is an excellent Meta Gem, mainly for the Spell Crit rating. The Spell Reflect is neat, but do not under any circumstances rely on it for anything, You will only see it work once in a blue moon.

Comment by Oh420

A mage casts 100 fireballs at you. You will reflect only one fireball back.

Basicly thats how it is. So if you pvp youll probably see if reflect once an hour or even more. which isnt that great. With all the rogues/warriors now a cloth class is better off with the 18sta 5%stun res.

Comment by 17357

From a PvE perspective this is quite good for any caster class, the spell reflect is just a novelty.

Comment by Piaggio

If you ask me this is a nice meta gem for a paly, since they rely on crits to get free heals and there are some nice +healing red gems =)

Comment by yoshi245

This got nerfed, not the effect, the requirement for 2.1.0.

It now requires 4 red/blue/yellow gems instead of 5 red.

Comment by TheRaven

in my gem book still shows 5red and same on the one crafted

Comment by alcaras

Does this reflect AoEs?

Comment by 31363

Wondering if such a thing would work on raid bosses... Say Shade of Aran shoots a Frostbolt my way - Is it it possible to reflect it back at him?

Comment by karti

I am a holy paladin, and as my favorite games in my reach (moneywise) are +9heal/+2mp5 and red+blue, i cannot get the healer-meta (too many blues).
Which leaves this as a nice alternative..

As far as i know, reflect does reflect single spells by throwing back, and AoE by just negating all their effects.
This was the case with Engineering Trinkets (tested by me), and i think ive been reading something like that from official sources as well

Comment by belisarius

Guys excuse the ignorance/lack of knowledge, "first time in the desert". I'm unsure what I can do with my situation. I'm wanting to place this gem in my high warlord helm. I have the full PvP HWL and General set at 70 for my shaman. Its just there is only 3 red and 4 yellow sockets available to me in this scenario of gear. I'm wondering can I use a Green or Purple gem in 2 of the available red/yellow sockets to make up for the blue gem requirement? Just wanting some definite "yes's" before I do this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Else I guess i'll just have to settle for another meta gem that suits unfortunately :(

Comment by eToast

Another quick note for all you gem users:

You do not HAVE to use a red, purple, or orange gem in a red socket. You can easily use a green, yellow, or blue. Prismatic's work as well, as they count as red, yellow, and blue.

The only socket that must follow the rules is the Meta socket. Only meta gems fit. Socket bonuses rarely justify socketing by color, especially at 70.

Comment by Ravedruid

Relentless Earthstorm vs. Destructive Skyfire

250,000 Damage
30% Spell Crit (75,000 DMG)
2500 damage per crit

2250 additional DMG from 3% Crit DMG (Relentless)
0.63% crit = 2343 DMG (Destructive)

250,000 Damage
32.5% Spell Crit (81,250 DMG)
2500 damage per crit

2437.5 additional DMG from 3% Crit DMG (Relentless)
0.63% crit = 2343 DMG (Destructive)

250,000 Damage
35% Spell Crit (87,500 DMG)
2500 damage per crit

2625 additional DMG from 3% Crit DMG (Relentless)
0.63% crit = 2343 DMG (Destructive)

Roughly (without additional spec based benifits from critically striking such as Nature's Grace or Clearcasting) the Destructive Skyfire diamond is better than the Relentless Earthstorm Diamond unless overall crit rating > aprox. 32.5%

By all means, anyone with the desire to do so, feel totally free to double check my math or to break it down cleaner and/or more precisely. I merely wanted a rough idea of which meta gem to go with.

Comment by Gutts

the reflect works in similar way to the warriors reflect,so some bosses are immune to it....don't rely on the spell reflect it may happen and it may not.

Comment by 41066

Does anyone know if the spell reflect on this gem can reflect spells like counterspell/spell lock/silence etc?

Comment by 12600

It does reflect counter spell. I was in an arena last night and our mage suffered from his own counter spell on a paladin equiped with this meta gem. Not only did he not stop the paladin from healing but he took himself out temporarily. It was unfortunate and hilarious at the same time.

Comment by 53109

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=20080
Hm, a thought comes to mind.
Would the effects of the destructive skyfire diamond stack with the sheen of zanza? (Well, the first offensive spell doesn't count, in my opinion, since that is 100% chance)
It would be pretty interesting if it did, but I do not have the reputation with the zandalar tribe, sadly, nor have I this meta gem (though I'm considering getting it) to test my theory.

Comment by TheOrangeGuy

I have had this reflecting my mana burns, not that fun imo.
Casting Mana burn = 355 mana,
Mana burned by the spell = around 1050 mana,
Damage from the mana burn = 500ish...
So by casting a 2.5 sec spell I loose 1400 mana and take 500 dmg, when it proccs.

Comment by NightmareMJ

This would be amusing to see a direct cast spell from a boss get reflected, though granted most bosses are immune to their own spell damage type this would be amusing.

Comment by 42728

this meta is BS, after dpsin down a warlock not only did i get my own moonfire to my face but the subsequent wrath cast aswell, NO HIDDEN CD after litterly saying "wtf a warlock can reflect?" i found this meta and will be using it in my S4 helm, cant wait.

Comment by 149470

There ought to be a version of this that reflects physical attacks.

Comment by Allakhazam

Requires at least 2 Red gems
Requires at least 2 Blue gems
Requires at least 2 Yellow gems

..according to wowhead

Comment by Allakhazam

I can now make this gem for you on the Farstrider realm. PST AUMAN (Alliance)for information.

Comment by Allakhazam

I have this on Shadowsong (PVE - Horde). Whisper Saintlock, free with your mats tips welcome.

Comment by Allakhazam

Does the spell reflect work against bosses?

Comment by Allakhazam

Imba for mage/lock and moonkin

I can craft this on Wildhammer-EU

/w to Murlo or Murloc on Alliance-side or write a email to Murl on Horde-side

Comment by Allakhazam

Anyone know what other gems (Red/Yellow/Blue) are required to activate this Meta gem?

Comment by Allakhazam

I can make this on Mannoroth. Just wisper or mail to "Picknicker".

Comment by Allakhazam

I had this thing throw a lightning bolt back at me in pvp recently...not fun <_<

Comment by Allakhazam

Cutting on Executus EU alliance side (Jarmen) Horde side (Merlioth) /w for prices

Comment by Thottbot

talking about reflects...

i critted myself for 4888 damage in botanica a cpl of days ago... pretty annoying, as it would be my new rec if it had only landed properly :p

Comment by Thottbot

It says that it requires at least 5 red gems.

If i have 5 orange gems (fits yellow or red sockets)..4 of them in yellow sockets.

will i still be allowed to use the 1% reflect meta gem?

Comment by Thottbot

Multi-colored gems will count toward both of their colors when activating a meta gem. For example, a meta gem that requires 5 red and 5 yellow gems can be activated with 5 orange gems.

also:

* Multi-colored gems will match either of their colors when socketed. For example, an orange gem can be used to active an item bonus with a red or yellow socket.
* You can replace a gem already socketed in an item with another one, destroying only the gems you are replacing.
* A gem does not have to match its socket color to count toward a meta gems bonus.

Comment by Thottbot

i agree with above the way to get around allot of the requiremnts are to wear gems that are two colors at once. doing that you can wear just about anything

Comment by Thottbot

Bought this in AH this morning on my server for 180g. Been looking for it for a long time already but it simply never got offered in AH before. In my opinion this is the only interesting metagem for locks/mages to date. Hope some other nice metagems will be released soon.

Comment by Thottbot

Two side observations I've made in regards to it proc'ing:

It can proc regardless if you have some type of defensive shield on: PW:Shield, Mana Shield, Ice Barrier, etc.
It can reflect a spell thats already been reflected. (ie. you shoot a fireball at someone, they reflect it back @ you, gem procs and throw it back right at them) :)

Comment by Thottbot

The 1% spell reflect adds up (defensively) to 1% to completely avoid ANY spell (even Holy), plus resistances. Plus the added fun of reflecting pain to your caster enemy, and as an engineer, I've done that for a while XD.

Could this have a future as the meta of choice for tanking bosses with magic? I don't see any other metas that offer spell defenses, and a paladin tank won't be hurt any by that spell crit (Judgement Crits )

Comment by Thottbot

This rarely reflects, seen it twice in 2 weeks of playing

Comment by Thottbot

For mages, is this meta gem better than the 'mystical skyfire diamond'? I have been using the Destructive but some mages seem to swear by the Mystical skyfire. Any thoughts?

Comment by Thottbot

0,63 spell crit

Comment by Thottbot

Question:
If you simply equip two Prismatic Spheres, will that fulfill the requirement?

Comment by Thottbot

A few in-depth questions about spell reflect:

Channeled spells - can they be entirely reflected, not reflected at all or each tick can be reflected?

DoTs - I assume the initial application can be reflected, however, once it's on can you reflect specific ticks?

Pet spells - charm specifically, can a succubus charm herself, is it not able to proc reflect or will it proc to avoid the effect but have no effect back at its caster?

PPM - is there a proc per minute limit or if the gods so choose can this item proc from back to back spells?

AoE - can aoe spells be reflected and even more interestingly, can mass dispel be reflected?

Crowd control - in pvp, are there any forms of fear, stun, snare or silence that CANNOT be reflected?

Crit-based buffs - does a caster who gains buffs when crit receive those bonuses if you reflect the spell back and it scores a crit? does the reflector receive spell-crit buffs when reflecting a spell back to a caster for a crit?

Travel time - do spells that travel through the air before hitting the target still hit the original caster if they've since moved out of range after casting the spell?

Comment by Thottbot

Think this would be any good for an Enhancement Shaman?
I tend to get snared ALOT and having this very small chance of survival in PvP would be great.
Thanks in advance

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Destructive Skyfire Diamond

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Item Level 70
+14 Spell Crit Rating and 1% Spell Reflect

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