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Comment by 30899

keep in mind on BoP patterns only the specific type of crafter can actually see the pattern. Thus drop rates will look very low on a database site like this.

Actual drop rate for Blacksmiths who can see the pattern is much higher than listed drop rate.

Comment by Rahvin616

Do you need to be running on heroic mode to get these plans, or do they drop on normal runs?

Comment by 28434

Got them on my 2nd Crypt run after picking up blacksmithing. And reading the other comments droprate doesn't seem that bad.

Comment by Drunkenrage

have done almost 8 runs and still has not dropped, wondering if it has been changed

Comment by 37059

You can solo farm the pattern at 70. You can run through most of the main hall close to the end without aggroing anything. There is a monk on that pull that patrols between 2 different packs. Therefore, if you can solo a monk and the add it spawns, you can solo farm this. I'm a pretty well geared protection warrior, so melee mobs barely hurt me:)

It dropped after about 25-30 kills/instance resets.

Comment by 61470

After reading your posts I decided to take a group and run crypts, but it took a little time learning how to handle these mobs. As the tank for my group(69 Warrior) I was MC, then switched to berserker mode and wiped my entire group. It didnt drop, and almost seemed not worth it, maybe now that I know what to expect and how to control these groups ill try again.

Comment by 40642

As a warrior I found defensive stance with shield and matching gear to be the only way to do this, still being a very annoying solo grind unless you have decent tanking gear and some points in Protection.

If your gear is not top and your spec is not the best, but still feel like playing the lottery:

As you enter the crypts you have a large coffin directly ahead and to your left, with two mobs patrolling around it. You want to walk close along this coffin's left side while avoiding the mobs, and proceed to a second coffin straight ahead.

A single Auchenai Monk that can drop the plans walks around this coffin. It's possible to stand and wait at the column-like structure between the two coffin's if you need to. The monk will stop and kneel for a prayer two times during his patrol, once in the hallway and once on the stairs on the opposite side of the coffin. You want to wait until the monk says a prayer and again walk close along the coffin's left side and proceed ahead and stop in the large cavity in the floor. This is a good spot to fight.

Now you wait for the monk to say his prayer in the hallway, and you grab him as he comes around the coffin. The monk spawns one of several types of adds, and you should kill the add first. Use demoralizing shout and thunder clap and spend all rage on heroic strike and revenge until the add is dead, after that you should keep sunders, demoralizing shout, disarm and shield block running at all times on the monk, while fighting him using revenge, and always with your back turned against a wall or column as he regularly knocks you back.

Comment by Brahmabull754

No problem at all doing this as a raid tank spec'ed Warrior.

All you have to do is run up the left side if the instance, hugging the large coffins. There is a sorcerer that pats around the first coffin so you must wait until it leaves the area.

What I do is, once I reach the second coffin, I wait for the monk to patrol back into the empty middle area and jump him there. Keep up Shield Block, and like the poster just above me said, kill the add first and use Thunderclap, Demo Shout, and Revenge liberally.

If you are full Prot like I am, you have the benefit of using Devastate and Imp Shield Block.

Comment by Richard

Paladins should be able to solo this. I got all blues and was able to solo a bunch of times, just equip your best defense gear and keep Blessing of Wisdom up and get ready for a 5min fight. Also, he does spawn an undead non-elite when you engage combat, so you should kill him first before hitting away for mana and then its a matter of healing yourself between him interrupting your casts. As long as you stay above 40% life and keep Blessing and Judge Wisdom, you should have no problem with mana. Just an annoying fight.

After about 5 or 6 resets the instance would not let me enter any more: "You have entered too many instances recently".

Comment by 67129

I made a video how to solo these, the quality sucks etc but I made it just as a test.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9054315174551518809

I have done 10 runs this far and haven't dropped for me yet, im hoping to get the plans still today. GL to everyone whos farming them :)

Comment by Tresjin

Do you merely need to have Blacksmithing to see the plans, or do you need to have Blacksmithing (360) for them to appear?

Comment by takashi

i just got this on my second run o/

Comment by 68918

Didn't see any rogue specific comments so I wanted to contribute. The solo monk is easy as a combat rogue in epic/blues. Just pop AR/BF and the non-elite adds go down fast as you keep attacking the monk. I just wait for my 5 min cd to be up and reset and try again. Haven't dropped yet but hope it does soon :)

Comment by 69031

Well this is just great.... Reading you can easyely solo this.... well then try elemental shammy How you get pass the mob in begginging ???!?!?!
i will try just walk pass em... but if i dont make it i will just LFG to this horrible place

Comment by 34251

This is f'ing impossible to solo farm as an Enhancement Shaman. I did the first one alright, just was in the wrong spot at the time and a lot of stealthed things spawned on me.

Then when I did the 2nd pull it looked to be alright except for the 2 stealthed phasing things appearing again and whooping my ass. F'ing A.

Comment by delete

Very easily soloed as a 70 protection warrior in blues. Take the path in Chremo's video and kill the add first. Keep up thunderclap and demo shout, spam shield block and revenge, shield slam if you have extra rage. Make sure you stay the HELL away from the skull pile behind you, getting anywhere near it always seems to spawn about a billion f@#$ing mobs that will kill you every single time if you are already in combat with the monk.

Comment by stoke

40 Monks killed and still no drop. Only been at it a few days though.

Comment by 75463

As a decently geared 70 MS warrior, this was not easy to solo. I died about 30-40% of the time. Getting a group for the instance proved much more effective, as there are 8-10 monks throughout and having a 70 in the group makes the run cake.

After three runs, it still hadn't dropped for me, so I decided to switch to Plans: Khorium belt (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23524). The guys that drop this are level 66 non-elites, and the mats price is a bit cheaper. Happy hunting.

Comment by 76091

it's easy for a ms/fury warrior if your gear is good enough. I have 10800 hp in my pvp gear and I'm usually at about 25% health by the time the monk and his add go down, depending on what add comes up.

But yeah, 23 kills, no plan :(

Comment by Goodlive

Started trying 2 days ago. Did 20runs myself - no luck.
Today brought my friend (resto druid) and we could kill 5 monks per run instead of 1 that I could kill solo. Got mine on 38th Monk kill
Totaly doable with fury warrior as long as you have 10k hp

Comment by Atwa

did 5 kills yesterday, no luck. decided to try again today got it on the first. so 6 kills totally it took for me

Comment by riker

I am MS/fury with 9k hp unbuffed but running at about 34% crit with Lunar cresent.. I found it a lil hard to kill the monk on my own but did it with only 1 pot and surviving with 25% health.

Killing 1 monk per instance reset will take you far too long to get this plan, try what I did.

Get a mage and a priest/paladin/shaman/druid and take out the grouped monks as well.

We did about 4 groups of monks and after 3 resets I finally got my plans. Now to stock up on felsteel : ) and hellllloo Bloodmoon!

Comment by 77532

How long will these stay orange for?

Comment by 36183

I'm currently farming these as a very decently geared Fury Warrior, together with my Druid buddy (feral, but in healing gear), so we can do a few more pulls than just the single Monk, doing about 3-5 Monks per run. Keep in mind to kill the Phantasmal Posessor adds immediately, they channel a mindcontrolling spell that puts you under their command when it's done channeling. Fortunately they do die in about 2 hits.

43 Monks killed so far, no luck :(

Edit: lol just got them on monk # 45 o/

Comment by stoke

Dropped on the 99th kill :-D

Comment by 60274

Can someone give me tips on how to solo the monk as a Retribution Paladin?

Here's my armory: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Greymane&n=Zerathul

Comment by 49862

it took me 15 total crafts of these gloves from 361-375 blacksmithing.

Comment by fighterpilot2k1

I got my Felsteel glove recipe on my 9th kill. You have to be a blacksmith for it to drop. When i started to farm this monk for the recipe i was a 359 blacksmith but it didnt drop. I came back as a 360-361 blacksmith and within 8 more tries i got the recipe and a major mana potion. The chances of dropping were higher than wowhead says so.

Keep in mind that you must be a blacksmith for the recipe to drop because its BoP.. It does not matter how high your skill in blacksmith is so don't worry.

I did it as a lvl 70 Human Arms warrior on (Normal mode) I reset 9 times to get it. Just charge/thunderclap/ demo shout .. when non elite spawns. Attack the non elite click sweeping strikes and use cleave and whirlwind so you get 4 hits on each. Sweeping strikes cannot be dodged,parry ,etc so u will hit the elite monk everytime. Once the non elite dies, burn the monk down to 0 health and hope he drops the recipe. Hope this helps ;-)

Comment by 30984

Dropped on 1st kill woohoo :) used chremos vid thx dude, lvl 375 bs now :)

Comment by 81626

I'm used tactic like in "Qwiggalo" comment.
For me Arms warrior (12,5k hp, 37% crit) 1 attempt tooks about 2:30 min. It was easy to kill it.
It drop me at 3th time.

Comment by 21020

Got mine on the very first kill, I feel so luck. =)

Comment by 69927

Took me 3runs to get the gloves. =) Now i only need 4more skill...

Just some short tips for Retri paladin grinding it.

Attack the mob as shown on the video. Save your stun and simply just auto / CS attack. Use HoJ if it summons a healer. And when the mob reaches about 30-50%hp use your bubble heal yourself up and simply just nuke.

Comment by 10954

Chremo's vid is great but it's not quite the best place.
Simply stand with your back up against the end of the furthest coffin as you run in. The monk wanders by and attacks, you go to work. No knockbacks or patrols to worry about. It took me about 40 resets to finally get it.

Comment by 17945

Died 3 times attempting to do this as Holy on my pally with 4/5 season2 gear. Got it off the first monk. GL, its kinda fun.

Ps. the nodes of adamantite are very tempting but they aggro the nearby mobs, I managed to mine an ore but it cost me 5g in repairs :(

Comment by Divyraen

I am a weaponsmith, not an armorsmith. Will the plans still drop for me?

Comment by 27146

Did they change something with the instance? That first mob on the ledge aggros every time, and I am hugging the coffin.

Comment by 94269

Was easy to farm as a prot paladin at lvl 70. Just pass mobs until the end of the first room. Could pretty easy kill 2 elites IF you take the castermob first. Droped from the second mob.

Comment by 13261

I've done this duel botting my warrior and priest (both on different accounts) killing at least 4 monks each run sometimes 5. Reset the instance at least 50 times now.....

ridiculous drop rate.... starting to feel like it no longer drops off these mobs.

edit: It did drop in the end... found 4 BoE blues, countless greens, 4 stacks of adimantite 1 stack of eternium, 2 stacks of acient lichen I got at the same time so not all that bad. I still wish it would have dropped sooner!

Comment by 39637

Got mine last night dropped after 28 monks !

Comment by Hugemonster

Got it on the 2nd reset. Lucky me I guess.

Comment by 19616

Wanted to level my blacksmithing with this, thought i'd try it with just me (prot war) and a shaman buddy. Went to the far right corner, only accidentally pulled one mob on the way, but that was fine. Pulled the monk while in the far corner, killed her easily and got the drop FIRST TRY.

Comment by 6638

If you're not up for resetting a thousand times, two decently geared 70s can duo every pull up to the first boss without much difficulty. Just be sure to bring the MCing adds down quick and everything else is cake.

Comment by 30199

lol these plans dropped for me and my group that was runnin reg crypts to get this for my BS'ing as i was reading the comments. 2nd time in after clearing up to first boss. dropped off a monk. GL

Comment by 110589

Just got it today at 20:30, dont give up.. it will drop sometime, i got mine after like 120 monks :P

Comment by 112295

Totally farmable by 70 warrior, did a few like in the vid, and then found a grp of lowbies to clear the entire instance with, and they love having a 70 tank :D

i stopped counting after 50, but all i can say is
KEEP IT UP IT WILL DROP!

now im 375 blacksmith w/ moncleaver <3
p.s.-if u got it on your first try or somehting dont post ur mean!

Comment by 68966

Here is another movie made through a Ret Palas view. It even shows the plan drop ;)

http://files.filefront.com/Felsteel+planswmv/;9337326;/fileinfo.html

Comment by 21640

I found these off some random Ogre in Nagrand, a friend told me they only drop off the monks in Crypts so I looked it up and it seems to be that way. Guess I was lucky then. :-)

Comment by polkadot

january 9 they dropped for me after a few days of trying on and off, about 25 monks total.

Comment by 112265

There's a U shaped enclave at the other end of 2nd coffin, fight them there, no arrgo and knock back problems, and ranged spawn has to go inside the enclave to attacke you. I can kill lvl 65 elite monks but not lvl 66 ones. :(

ps. i have 11k armor and 10k hp buffed.

Comment by Clown

Just solo'ed it as fury, if you have t4 par gear its easily do-able still. got it to drop on my first attempt.

Comment by 100830

just like everyone else who got this pattern on their own; follow chremo's video! i was lucky enough to get this on my fourth attempt.

few things to add in case no one's touched up on them yet:

- when fighting the monk, make sure you back is up against a coffin. the monk does a knock-back.

- if the monk summons an unliving cleric, kill this mob first. he/she will heal herself for a decent amount.

- after killing the monk and not getting your plans, to your right, under the tunnel, is another monk who pats around. this monk may look like it can be pulled just as easy as teh first monk but it is not. do yourself a favor and leave this monk alone, zone out, and reset. i had to learn this the hard way.

- as an added bonus, an adamantite node spawns near where you have to go to fight the monk. 2 out of my 4 attempts, the adamantite node was there.

Comment by 35553

Don't be discouraged by multiple runs etc, that you read about here. It's not **always** the case. I had a 70 friend take me there while he was waiting to raid and the very first monk dropped the pattern. Seriously took more time to get there than to farm. I might be the exception, but it was 1 for 1 attempt. Drop rate may be different than noted. At any rate, good luck!

Comment by 34137

Definitely soloable as a warrior (Arms/Fury in my case), though going with someone else will make it much faster. Alone, I was able to kill the singles only, capping attempts at 5 per hour; together with a priest (shadow, but was healing me), all duo groups were rather easy as well.

Took 100 atttempts for me.

Comment by volcano

I'm going nuts after this recipe...
I just ended my 80th run (eighty, right) and the plans haven't showed up yet...

Sadly, a friend of mine who didn't want to get the plans killed ONE, ONE damned monk and got the recipe.

I still haven't given up and I wont.

Comment by Loreya

Easily soloable as a lvl70 warrior. got it on my !first! kill.

Comment by anden12

Both me and my friend got this in the same heroic run.

Comment by 60834

Got this in 4 hours of farming (12 resets) with a rogue friend. Anyone who's planning to farm this should really get a partner because you can easiliy kill 3-4 monks per reset with 2 people by moving further in. Bring a miner friend if you can, there's like 2-3 nodes per instance!

Comment by 129716

I'm a fury warrior and soloed this with very little difficulty. Once you get to the mob and engage it, throw up commanding shout, without it you may be out of luck. Then use thunder clap and demo shout and start pure dps on the elite, ignoring the add. I usually had to use a healing pot but i only have 9k health and not the greatest gear. Also, if they summon a cleric, kill it as fast as you can. If you ignore it, it will heal the monk and you will die. I got the drop after about 15 kills. Good luck!

Comment by 45681

Yep, leveling blacksmith can be a bitch, i know. but as many other have experienced,
its one good way to level from 360 and up.

Get you'r hands on a https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23605, you might say. am i or high or something?
atm im happy yes, but its fairly easy to get (as level 70). and YES also as a warrior! Many say:
Wow this was easy to get, and then you look at his class. frost mage.... yep. Sheep, frost nova, frost bite. and so on
well we warriors aint got these spells, and have to survive by getting the apponent down faster then he can do to us.

this is what you do.
You go into Crypts. (i would suggest you have some GOOD dps gear, or a decent tanking gear + tanking specc.)
look at the warrior version of the video posted above me, a guy there, soloing an elite(a monk) + add in there.
this should show you the way in and where to stand. remember, ONLY do this elite + add, and then go out and reset the instance.

When you engage the fight, always put up Thunderclap and Demo. shout, this will reduce the mobs damage pretty much.
and always use shield block aswell (if your in tanking gear), when its not on cd.

and remember he has adds, i think its 4 versions.

1: Priest, kill this BEFORE you kill the elite, when the elite goes beneath 50% the add will heal him GOOD, if he does. your dead;)

2:Mage, also kill this first, he does nasty damage over a period of time. so take him first.

3: Hunter, this add doesnt do very much damage so it's not that important, but if he hits you hard, take him first.

4: Warrior, The same here, doesnt hit hard. just puts up a good fight. think you can leave him until the elite is dead, even if you are badly geared:)

I dont got good gear, i good decent. but when i did it like this. i ended the fight with about 10-30% health.
how many mobs i had to take to get it? that does'nt matter, its ALL about luck. it can drop on your second mob, or you'r 341.
doesnt matter how you do it, when you do it, or wich way you do it, its luck, only luck.

And may the drop go your way. Cheers! zcum

Comment by 133841

Blacksmith Leveling Advice:
1). Level to 360
2). Choose your specialty (I went Weaponsmith: Swords)
3). Make your one hander and two hander
4). Level up using Felsteel Gloves https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23605

This will save you a bit on mats by re-prioritizing when you do your first tier weapon chain.

Comment by 136296

So yeah I went in solo last night about 5 times. As a S2/S3 Geared MS warrior. I can solo the single and the Grps with 2 in them. by using a HP potion. 4 Monks per reset x 5 resets I got nothing. Then a Feral Druid friend joined me and later a Suicidal S Priest. We cleared all Monks (4-6) per reset. about 10 times and got nothing but greens 24x Adamantite ore,1x Star of Elune and some crap drops. Im starting to think these guys dont drop the plans. anyone had any luck since the last patch or lately?

Comment by 76441

Take it for my 14 run in AC.
Big Thanks Chremo for his video, it was very helpful for me. I'am use his strategy.

Comment by 122909

Been farming all day, Im starting to become nuts i think :s Even /beg and /hug the monks before i kill them... Im starting to think its a god damn religion - You never know if it's true - Cus everytime i loot a monk its like open a christmas present if you know what i mean? My heart nearly stops when he drops a green item... :( Im on my 55th monk now. may sound little but its not :((( Good luck all others, and i wanna say FU to the ones that get it on the 1st try :((((

Comment by Ramini

I'm on my third day of farming this thing whenever I can spare the time, must be on my 30th run at least by now. I'm a retribution paladin with Thunder and mainly blue items (a few greens a few epics)

The monk spawns either a Possessor, Soldier, Stalker, Sorcerer or Cleric. These are all undead so as a paladin are very easy to kill fast if you want.
The monk knockbacks with a physical attack so stand against the coffin, though you probably will parry/dodge it alot.
The monk also kicks any spell being cast so be careful when healing, it sometimes manages to kick hammer of wrath too.
The monk is also immune to Repentance so don't rely on that to heal yourself.

Possessor - Can be ignored since it won't MC you, but since it dies very fast you may want to spare a hit to take it out.
Soldier - Has a shield bash attack but apart from that deals minimal damage to a platewearer, leave until you've taken out the Monk
Stalker - Has poison and a self enrage, also better off leaving until after the monk since it does less damage and won't interrupt your heals.
Sorcerer - Frostbolt, Blastwave and an immobilize, kill it fast, for something so lower level it seems to never get resisted :S
Cleric - Heals itself and the Monk, kill it fast also.

With a partner you can easily get 2 or 3 more monks in the next room as well as nearly always getting a locked chest and an adamantite vein. The vein at the far end of the coffin from the entrance can also be mined solo without aggroing the two group.

In my current gear I can just about nuke the monk out of the twosome and loot before I die but it's a high price to pay for one more monk.

Comment by 153754

I can't farm this. Is it the new patch or what? I soloed it 5 times, then reset, tried to get into the instance and got an error: You have been into too many instances lately. I was like really mad, because i was all buffed up and ready to farm.

How many instances can i do per hour?

Comment by 36358

Picked up mine today on the first mob, the instructions on this page are extremely accurate. A decently geared warrior should be able to easily sneak past the mobs and pull one lone monk.

Comment by 160410

got the gloves as a 70 MS warrior with blues/greens and a thunder...was difficult..got it after about 16 runs

Comment by 160900

Took me 13 kills. Before I read the comments I (rogue) stealthed to just before the first boss where I took out a pair of monks. After reading the comments I found just killing the first 3 is a lot more efficient. Thanks, WoWhead ; )

Comment by supZ

that vid was awesome :)

been wondering how to do this as i cant be bothered to put much time on my warr but i do wanna level bs.

easy kill even on my warr who has thunder and the 0.5 glad crap. ending every fight on 3-4k hp.

5 resets and no drop but at least i know i can solo it now

great vid, helped a lot!

Comment by 131525

i have done 15 runs the last 3 days with 2-3 lvl70 friends of mine

we even clear 1st boss so we can get to the monks after that but still no drop(i think we need 10-15mins for each run or smt)

the funny thing is that last time i was there about a month ago to help a friend get the recipe the damned thing dropped twice in the same run and i also got the one recipe - i wasnt a bs thought so i just sold it in vendor lol

./pray to drop today - already got mats to go from 360 to 375

Comment by 170550

I must have gotten super lucky, because I got mine on my 2nd run. 5th monk i killed dropped it. :) (i was bursting down monks and dieing to the shadowpriest adds)

Comment by Allakhazam

Got one today in Auch. Crypts. Now time to level Blacksmithing a bit more =]

Comment by Allakhazam

On http://www.realmhistory.net you can view who can craft this on your realm or add yourself as a crafter.

Comment by Allakhazam

preety retarded, me and my friend did about 7, 2 man normal crypts and still not a single drop. fck you blizzard

Comment by Allakhazam

I found my plans on an ogre in Nagrand....typical everyday ogre....need em made msg me Scruffieduck in Bladefist

Comment by Allakhazam

is there any other 360 plans u can get? just in case i cant farm this one out

Comment by Allakhazam

Venomweb @ Baelgun - Horde Side
Can make it. do /w - in game.

Comment by Allakhazam

Got one of a Boulderfist Warrior in Nagrand.

Comment by Allakhazam

Was running Crypts last night and two of these dropped in a single run. 'Least I don't have to grind Crypts for these as I thought I'd have to :)

Comment by Thottbot

This dropped for me in Auchenai Crypts, note that the plans are BoP. Interestingly enough, people without the required profession are unable to see that the item has dropped and cannot roll on it.

Comment by Thottbot

Just dropped on my first run there, non-heroic.
And yes, only Blacksmiths can see and roll on them and you can only have one. I know that, because I had two drop from the two Monks right after the first boss, rolled on both, but got only one (not that it would matter, as they're bop).

Comment by Thottbot

Getting this drop is very soloable as a level 70, and is what I did. You can skip the first set of mobs and pull a solo Monk who patrols everytime, then exit and reset.

You're gonna run up against the instance reset cooldown timer a lot, but if you're determined to get them and don't want to find a group for an unpopular instance, you'll get as many as 5 shots per hour at the plans. You'll get them eventually. Easy.

Comment by Thottbot

Easy to solo as a combat rogue, just need to sap the extra elite, cheapshop slice and dice, bladefurry and andrenaline rush + (maybe evasion) and the monk and 2 adds should be dead..can kill pretty much every monk in the instance this way if you're patient. Still waiting on it to drop ><"

Comment by Thottbot

Well I have tried 15+ times still haven't droped :( But as luck has is seems after posting on here things drop. Gonna try again tonight. GL to everyone trying to get these. I have gotten many LVL 365 recipies (blues and purps) and am lookin forward to making them... just need 5 points and these would make that really easy.

Comment by Thottbot

got these my first time through. jeez, didnt know how lucky i was until i came on here and saw that some people had been farming for them, over a hundred runs and counting! as for being able to get to 375 with them, we'll just have to see once i can learn them. good luck all you guys trying to get these plans, keep trying, you'll get it! :D

Comment by Thottbot

0/50 This far :(

Comment by Thottbot

Got these plans after second try. Did it as a prot warrior. Just kill the add as fast as you can then finish off the Monk. Concussion Blow is awesome for this fight easy kill.

Comment by Thottbot

Ive been trying to find the cheapest way to lvl my BS to 375 and i found that guide posted up above. . ive only jsut started solo-ing but so far its 0/5 runs, im going to keep trying! fingers cross ! goodluck to all those trying to get it ! :) :)

ps: Hopefully after posting here its gonna drop ! >.<

Comment by Thottbot

nm must of just been bugged

Comment by Thottbot

So are you guys farming it on normal difficulty or heroic?

Comment by Thottbot

I've spent the past 4 days with atleast 10 runs a day either soloing the first mob or using a combo of earth elemental fire elemetal and bloodlust/trinkets to kill up to 4 in a run

no luck with the plans but i have gotten some blue gems from the chest =)

ive also found that if you have a friend whos a healer you can get alot more done, i was able to 2 man all the monks in the instance (killed the boss too and killed the 2 monks after him) was easy but still no luck on the plans ><

Comment by Thottbot

Got them on my 7th run! Killed twice early on until I got into a rhythm. I'm a recent Lvl 70 Prot. Warrior.

Spell reflecting the add and TC'ing help a bunch.

Very doable.

Also scored on my second run through Shadow Lab last week and got the Felsteel Helm recipe!

Comment by Thottbot

Used the guide above and went in to give it a shot on my ret pally. Mob died easy, and I got the drop on my first try. Thanks for posting.

Comment by Thottbot

Yeah i farmed this all day must have killed 75+ monks and no luck so you one shotters.. i envy you. What i learned though is there are no monks after the 2 behind the first boss. Best to farm this with 2 dps chars and a good healer if your 70 you can even skip around the first boss to the last two monks behind him by hugging the wall to the left or right when he pats backwards then waiting in one of the lil side cubby wholes till he pats forward and then oving along the wall to the hall with the last 2 monks their is a possibility of 9 (maybe 10) monks per run.

Comment by Thottbot

I have killed over 100+ monks, yes I do count them and still no drop, and I got the plans for leggings on 1st arc mob that drops them... This crap needs to end since I am tired of Crypts!

Comment by Thottbot

Just so you figure, there are very few people who post on here, compared to the thousands who look on here, and have achieved these plans. There are either the few lucky ones who actually get theirs in their first few tries and feel obligated to notify of their success, the opposite for the people that try hundreds of times with no success that aslo do sometimes tell, so don't forget about the people who are the vast majority that get it in between and around those two mediums, that is the general average. I guess the thing you must always remember, you are the average, 90% of the time, you get lucky, and unlucky, just not every time. Just my little notification for the day...

But we shall continue to see about the posting relation on here, and if there is some "supernatural" or "lucky" aspect of getting a drop close to or right after, we'll have to see...

Comment by Thottbot

about 10-20 kills after my previous message, the plans did finally drop, this is about 60 kills, give or take 15, I'd say im average, for the soloing person, if you do all 4 monks with a friend, you'll get it alot faster, i bet many runs i did would have dropped off one of the monks i couldnt kill.

Comment by Thottbot

Holy crap! I followed this guide and got them on my first kill! This stuff never happens to meeeee, awesome!

Comment by Thottbot

me and my mate did it like 50 runs, and still no lucky, so i am here to get my lucky from the almigty Thottbot!

Comment by Thottbot

I have played this game longer than I would ever admit, and this is my first post. I wanted to get an alt to 375 BS, figured the Felsteel gloves would impel me to that end rather painlessly. Stumbled upon the above posts and figured I would give it the old college try. After about 40 tries, I began to loose faith. All alone in my lugubrious desperation, I reasoned that Blizz changed things... that I would never see the plans, that I was wasting my time. Yet still I plodded on, mind numbing repetition reducing me to a dithering whelp. But behold, at kill #59 (best as I can track) the plans drop. So it remains true. "Never give up. Never give in." Still saved time and gold even with the 12 one-hour cycles (over a two day period). Keep the faith, and think about the gazillions of fire elementals you spared when you chose this narrow but rewarding path.

Comment by Thottbot

cant believe nobody mentioned the mining vein that is always there too. I havent gotten the drop yet but everytime i reset for another try, there is almost always that vein in the back by the patrolling monk. i've gotten tons of adamantite and a few lucky khorium veins.

Comment by Thottbot

i farmed the first monk at least 30 times , was getting old fast. i got a friend to help me clear all the monks on the first floor and got the drop our first try.

Comment by Thottbot

I got 2 warriors. I got them on the first try on both. I feel really bad for people going in there a lot of times. It seems like these plans are made to drop on the first try don't know what's going on for all these other people. =(

Comment by dasbaum

TBC Classic
Drops on normal. Only visible/drops to blacksmiths (BOP)
There are ~9 Monks up to the first boss. Spawns are somewhat random. The first 3-4 groups never have a Monk.
There is one patrolling Monk at the back of the first room. As a level 70 you can walk up to him without adding any of the other groups.
If you start running immediately when you enter the instance, you can get him before he joins another group (he sits done with groups for a long time).
Took me ~35 Monk kills to get the recipe.

As Group:
Level 70 players can walk by most groups. If you bring a priest for Mind Soothe you can skip one additional group.
Kill all packs that have a monk up to the first boss.
Logout & let someone still outside reset the instance.
Log back in and you will be at the beginning of the instance.
A clear up to the first boss with a 5 man takes ~10min or less.
Repeat until recipe drops.

Solo Farming:
Kill the single Monk in the first room, reset instance, repeat until recipe drops.

Comment by demo3

No guarantee, but you might need to have your specialization set before you can get the recipe. 120 monk kills at 360 bs no spec got nothing, but it only took 30~ kills to get it after I got armorsmithing spec.

Comment by Bagspace

Did this solo today, very lucky to get it first kill, just to say do not be discouraged by everyone saying how hard it is and how you need decent gear. I did it on my arms warrior at 70 with hardly any any blues excepting the 2h void axe but I did use a couple of green tank items to up my defence. Walked in, went down the side of the two big coffins and waited for the solo monk to be isolated. I charged it and went to town, when the add spawned I killed that, then hit retaliation and used a health pot. That was all that was required to kill it, I admit I likely would have died without retailiation though.

Comment by Gusten

At the moment its pre patch to wrath.
Im doing this on my pally with hc/kara gear.

Its not hard at all and each run takes about ~6 min.

Downside, low drop..
A plus to this is that theres most of the time a adamantite node in the last room.
So each node = gold / materials for future crafting. (Like the adamantite weightstone sells for alot of gold right now).

Either way, this farm for the plan or not = alot of gold right now.

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